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		<title>By: PinkDog</title>
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		<dc:creator>PinkDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 05:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really pissed right now and doubt that what I put out here will explain how I feel, but no time like the present.

Gofer said it above but he was talking about league against league, &quot;collusion, chip dumping and cheating&quot;.

Well, I think slow play has to be thrown into the mix here also.

Chip dumping is easy to spot for anyone that has their head in the game and can be detected by the poker site managers when they review the hands reported. Cheating is just another way of saying collusion but it is the subtle nature of slow play that makes it so hard to prove that, honest players don&#039;t stand a chance against it and can&#039;t report it without sounding like the kid that cried wolf.

Excuses for slow play are readily available and have to be taken for face value, as if a real poker player was saying them, &quot;I always check with the top pair and a bad kicker&quot; or &quot;He is a tight player and I thought he had me beat&quot;.

I&#039;m an honest person and if I ask myself if I would slow play a member of my league in order for one of us to beat an opposing team, well, I&#039;m not sure, I would have to play the hand and see just how I feel at the time, but I know slow play happens and if you haven&#039;t seen it...well....get your head in the game, you will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really pissed right now and doubt that what I put out here will explain how I feel, but no time like the present.</p>
<p>Gofer said it above but he was talking about league against league, &#8220;collusion, chip dumping and cheating&#8221;.</p>
<p>Well, I think slow play has to be thrown into the mix here also.</p>
<p>Chip dumping is easy to spot for anyone that has their head in the game and can be detected by the poker site managers when they review the hands reported. Cheating is just another way of saying collusion but it is the subtle nature of slow play that makes it so hard to prove that, honest players don&#8217;t stand a chance against it and can&#8217;t report it without sounding like the kid that cried wolf.</p>
<p>Excuses for slow play are readily available and have to be taken for face value, as if a real poker player was saying them, &#8220;I always check with the top pair and a bad kicker&#8221; or &#8220;He is a tight player and I thought he had me beat&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an honest person and if I ask myself if I would slow play a member of my league in order for one of us to beat an opposing team, well, I&#8217;m not sure, I would have to play the hand and see just how I feel at the time, but I know slow play happens and if you haven&#8217;t seen it&#8230;well&#8230;.get your head in the game, you will.</p>
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		<title>By: gopher</title>
		<link>http://www.suitedjokers.com/blog/archives/52/comment-page-1#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>gopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now thats a good idea! They would be playing the league game anyway, so they would have the money for the next game.... point noted in my wee book for when I get this up and running!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now thats a good idea! They would be playing the league game anyway, so they would have the money for the next game&#8230;. point noted in my wee book for when I get this up and running!</p>
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		<title>By: Blagger</title>
		<link>http://www.suitedjokers.com/blog/archives/52/comment-page-1#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>Blagger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps have one qualifying league game a week and the winner represents the league the next week sorta thing?

This has the benifit that, the person who has to ante up an extra $10 to represent the league has in fact won their seat so to speak, because of their $$ win the week before in the &#039;qualifying&#039; game?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps have one qualifying league game a week and the winner represents the league the next week sorta thing?</p>
<p>This has the benifit that, the person who has to ante up an extra $10 to represent the league has in fact won their seat so to speak, because of their $$ win the week before in the &#8216;qualifying&#8217; game?</p>
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		<title>By: zitlips</title>
		<link>http://www.suitedjokers.com/blog/archives/52/comment-page-1#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>zitlips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmmmm..i&#039;ve never seen team play poker on T.V. so you may have a valid point there. It was so very evident what was going on with TFLC and so very sad. Its a sad fact that profit = corruption. I was so aware of Cynfuls past too and should have known better. I wonder what ever happened to that league. I don&#039;t think they like me anymore, BooHoo sniff sniff....NOT !!!!!
Still, I like the idea of league challenge even with that possibility and especially if the poker site will kick in some too. Sure the risk is there but it&#039;s everywhere and in every game we all play everyday, with the exception of our league games. So we are accustomed to that fact yet we still fare well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmmmm..i&#8217;ve never seen team play poker on T.V. so you may have a valid point there. It was so very evident what was going on with TFLC and so very sad. Its a sad fact that profit = corruption. I was so aware of Cynfuls past too and should have known better. I wonder what ever happened to that league. I don&#8217;t think they like me anymore, BooHoo sniff sniff&#8230;.NOT !!!!!<br />
Still, I like the idea of league challenge even with that possibility and especially if the poker site will kick in some too. Sure the risk is there but it&#8217;s everywhere and in every game we all play everyday, with the exception of our league games. So we are accustomed to that fact yet we still fare well.</p>
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		<title>By: Gopher</title>
		<link>http://www.suitedjokers.com/blog/archives/52/comment-page-1#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Gopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 08:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the problem with challenging another league is the same old chestnut..... collusion, chip dumping and cheating. Now we as a group are honest people. Each and every one of us plays to win and have no sympathy for whoever we take out - fellow league member or not (we might say sorry but do we REALLY mean it?? LOL).
On the other hand, experience has shown us that there are a lot of leagues out there who definately take &#039;team play&#039; to a different level. Its one of the reasons our league dropped the TFCL like a hot potato.

But a slightly different concept to the team play would be to try and get 6 - 10 leagues involved and play $5 or $10 sit and go&#039;s. One player from each league plays. This way each and every one of the players are fighting their own corner for their own league with little chance, if any, of collusion happening. Points could be awarded for each position and at the end of a series of games you would have the overall best forum. It would be a sort of inter-forum league.

I hope I&#039;m making sense... its easier to talk about the idea than writing it down...lol. If you have seen the team play poker tournament on TV you will know what I&#039;m rambling about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the problem with challenging another league is the same old chestnut&#8230;.. collusion, chip dumping and cheating. Now we as a group are honest people. Each and every one of us plays to win and have no sympathy for whoever we take out &#8211; fellow league member or not (we might say sorry but do we REALLY mean it?? LOL).<br />
On the other hand, experience has shown us that there are a lot of leagues out there who definately take &#8216;team play&#8217; to a different level. Its one of the reasons our league dropped the TFCL like a hot potato.</p>
<p>But a slightly different concept to the team play would be to try and get 6 &#8211; 10 leagues involved and play $5 or $10 sit and go&#8217;s. One player from each league plays. This way each and every one of the players are fighting their own corner for their own league with little chance, if any, of collusion happening. Points could be awarded for each position and at the end of a series of games you would have the overall best forum. It would be a sort of inter-forum league.</p>
<p>I hope I&#8217;m making sense&#8230; its easier to talk about the idea than writing it down&#8230;lol. If you have seen the team play poker tournament on TV you will know what I&#8217;m rambling about.</p>
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		<title>By: zitlips</title>
		<link>http://www.suitedjokers.com/blog/archives/52/comment-page-1#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>zitlips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>STALE!!! A very fitting word. The comraderie is great, the price is definately affordable for anyone who can afford to have the internet and damn the freeloaders who say they cant afford it.
Stagnation and boredom is abounding...crap..
My support for the league will remain (as always) throughout eyelids collapsing due to the &quot;Grounhog Syndrom&quot;..sigh.
The ocassional freeroll is (please don&#039;t kill me) a welcome relief. At least it offers a fresh change of banter, playing style, and modest if not laughable attempts at play.
Do you suppose we (meaning the regular players who can afford it) can create a sub league? Sort of a super sub league of our top 10 or 15 players (statistical outcomes to determine these players).
Take these players and toss a challenge at another league for say $5 or $10 entry (per person) in a league battle.
This may spice up play in our own league to qualify for the opportunity to represent our league and actually win some real money.
Maybe even make it a headhunter challenge type thing or some variation such as half of your entry goes on your head and half goes to the final pot which pays x amount of places.
Either way, I&#039;ll play as many league games as i can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STALE!!! A very fitting word. The comraderie is great, the price is definately affordable for anyone who can afford to have the internet and damn the freeloaders who say they cant afford it.<br />
Stagnation and boredom is abounding&#8230;crap..<br />
My support for the league will remain (as always) throughout eyelids collapsing due to the &#8220;Grounhog Syndrom&#8221;..sigh.<br />
The ocassional freeroll is (please don&#8217;t kill me) a welcome relief. At least it offers a fresh change of banter, playing style, and modest if not laughable attempts at play.<br />
Do you suppose we (meaning the regular players who can afford it) can create a sub league? Sort of a super sub league of our top 10 or 15 players (statistical outcomes to determine these players).<br />
Take these players and toss a challenge at another league for say $5 or $10 entry (per person) in a league battle.<br />
This may spice up play in our own league to qualify for the opportunity to represent our league and actually win some real money.<br />
Maybe even make it a headhunter challenge type thing or some variation such as half of your entry goes on your head and half goes to the final pot which pays x amount of places.<br />
Either way, I&#8217;ll play as many league games as i can.</p>
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