Comments on: Is it contagious – the debate continues….

By: zitlips

zitlips — Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:28:55 +0000

LOL..ya little asses…dangle that bait..lol
Well ya know damn well I’m gonna bite like a monkey with an ace rag off suit. After all I practically initiated all of this, and ya know I love to stir up chit once and awhile just for fun. Or just because of boredom. Whatever.

Overall, I think we can all agree or at the very least speculate, that Jetset could be a candidate for some tom foolery. Realizing this I think we should surmise that it HAS happened. The RNG myth is realized. The fact that jetset was a little too obvious might support the theory. It may also support “Murphy’s Law”, meaning, If it has happened, it will happen again, and if it hasn’t, then it will.
Different software programmers (or better ones) may not be as obvious as jetset.

As far as not being aggressive enough to get suked out on,…yep…thats usually the case for all of us. But remember, monkeys don’t care about that, so that point is moot.

If we don’t see a pattern it’s just better disguised. Jetset wasn’t nearly as concealed. Thus the programmers weren’t nearly as good.
Algorithyms are just more elongated so a pattern is not obvious.

HaHa…there’s your response ya pukes…hehe

By: PinkDog

PinkDog — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:05:46 +0000

Here lippy lippy lippy, com on boy

By: PinkDog

PinkDog — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:04:13 +0000

I have played well over 30,000 hands at abso/vegas (prolly more like 300k) and have yet to notice any type of pattern, and if there was a pattern there, I think someone from our crew would have picked up on it by now.

Maybe when the UIGEA was passed JetSet knew that the first sites the US would go after would be the corrupt sites so they got wish and turned tail before they got busted. Just a thought.

Now, just because every time I fold my small pocket pr to a big bet after I don’t hit the flop just to call for and hit my trips on turn or river can’t be blamed on the site. Thats just crappy poker skills and/or bad luck.

Maybe I should chase every once in awhile when holding a small pair. We all have that happen to us, but only the jackasses and monkey players are still in it, so they get paid off. Food for thought.

As for percentages of monkey play take outs, I would have to say:

1. I win more all-ins when I call monkeys than pots that I play to the river because I won’t call anyones all-in without the hand to make the call. We all do the same there, AA KK QQ and sometimes as little as 99 or 88, but we know we are the best at that moment, and if we are wrong, most of the time it was still the right thing to do because of stack size or knowing the jackass is a monkey.

2. I am not lucky when chasing hands to the river, well I said lucky but I mean the percentages always win out with me. If my odds are 4.5 to 1, by god I will win 1 out of 4.5, but it may take 20,000 hands for the odds to work out. We all go through times of invincibility and make every flush and every straight we play and so the odds have to become even again and the only way that can happen is to not catch your cards and lose the hand.

Too many times I have had 20+ outs with 1 card to come and I don’t hit. If you are an out-counter like me then you undoubtedly have gone through the same bad times and bad ass beats that I have, but we all have had the horseshoe so it all works out in the end.

Well, I been typing here so long I’m getting a wee bit intoxicated and I’m having a hard time seeing the screen.

Must be time to kick some monkey ass then so as always ….

See Ya on the Felt

By: svcmgr

svcmgr — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:28:07 +0000

I can’t wait for Lippy’s response to this one!. He is going to be all over this…lol.
If the site has a “flaw” like Jet Set did with the flushes, then there really isn’t a Random Number Generator then is there? It isn’t random if certain situations happen more frequently than others right?
I, personally would have a hard time travelling down the “Monkey Road” just to win a $2 SNG. I would not want that type of play to maybe influence my play at other sites or at live games.
You make a good point though. I haven’t seen a pattern yet like at Jet Set and I have played over 10,000 hands at Abs and Vegas. Maybe I haven’t watched it close enough.
Sure, I get pissed when I get taken out by the Monkey call but after a few minutes, I chalk it up to “that’s just what happens sometimes”.
Let me throw this one out there.
What percentage of Monkey play take outs are from calling a all-in bet vs. playing the hand to the river?
I think the percentage of calling the all-in is a lot higher than playing the hand through.
Of the playing the hand through percentage, how many of us has “allowed” the Monkey to catch because we weren’t aggressive enough on the flop and after?
I think we may need to take some responsibility for allowing the Monkeys to catch. Not all of it mind you, but some for sure.
I suppose I tend to look at all of this from a “what could I have done better” vs. “look what THEY did to me”. Does that make sense?

Come on Lippy, let er rip….lol

By: Blagger

Blagger — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:55:02 +0000

“It seems others do it and get away with it so why can’t we do the same?”

Gopher..man ain’t you learned nuttin yet? .. Monkey-type plays only ever works for Monkeys!